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SSDI and SSI Disability Application Process => Initial Filing Questions => Topic started by: acaptainn on November 27, 2018, 05:39:47 pm

Title: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on November 27, 2018, 05:39:47 pm
Hello all, I have done a good bit of reading here on the forum about initial claims process and learned some things but still have some questions.
 I have collected paper copies of my medical records but it seems the advise here is to use the online claim system rather than the paper records. True?
  I have come to the work history section of the online claim but don't remember the last 15 years of my work history to enter it. So i filled out and downloaded a printed copy of form SSA-7050 request for itemized earning information. My question is should I send this form and the money to SSA and wait for the response.
 Or is there another option I am unaware of?
 I am sure to have more questions in the future. But for now I thank you all for the knowledge you share here!
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: SAD_MOS on November 29, 2018, 11:55:26 am
Hey Cap,
I've only recently began to investigate this entire process so I might not be the ideal person to help. However , I can suggest that you create an account with the SSA.  It will provide you with your entire earnings record down to the penny once you are inside the site.  Best of wishes .

_MOS
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: jsm on November 29, 2018, 12:20:27 pm
SSA tracks the dollar amounts of your earnings and the name of your employer. So if your earnings record shows you worked at WalMart, it is impossible for SSA to know if you were the CEO or a janitor. Your earnings record does not show your job. It does not show your job duties or the physical demands of your job. It does not show the begin or end date of any job. The point of completing the vocational report is so SSA can determine the type of skills you have from the work you did. A former CEO is likely to have more transferable skills than a janitor.  A CEO may be able to do the work of a janitor but the janitor may be unable to do the work of a CEO. So the SSA 7050 will be relatively unhelpful unless it reminds you of a forgotten employer.

You may also be able to get the same information from your local office if you tell them you need it for an SSDI claim.

What KIND of work did you do in the last 15 years? Were you always a bookkeeper, a retail sales clerk, a data entry operator, a ditch digger, a roofer, a truck driver? The name of your employer is immaterial. The job and the job skills do matter.

SSA encourages online claims. SSA prefers online claims. Any paper you submit has to be added to your official folder electronically. Your official folder is electronic, not paper. Any paper you submit needs to be scanned into the electronic folder. With some medical sources, the electronic system seamlessly puts your medical records into the electronic folder. Much more efficient than paper. Often faster. Generally easier for SSA. Imperfect, but better than paper. You can always follow up to determine if all the medical records got into the electronic file and if denied, you can obtain a copy (electronic) and read it and even print it all out.

Best to do it the way SSA prefers.

Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on November 30, 2018, 07:23:26 am
Thanks for the recommendations!
 I was surprised today by 2 letters and a phone call from the SSA. Asking for a medical release form, and to call them. I hadn't submitted nor completed my initial application yet.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 06, 2018, 08:51:25 am
I just finished the work/education section of my 3368 and the next page Header is.
Remarks for..(insert my name here)
And it asks for additional information I want to include.

 What sort of information should I be including in this area?
 
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 06, 2018, 03:59:22 pm
I just finished speaking on the phone to a employee from my local SSA office who asked me a series of questions and proclaimed that my 3368 is now done and I do NOT need to submit the 3368 I have been working on online.
 I don't feel tho that the phone interview went into as much detail as many have said is needed to be approved.
 One of these being some emergency room visits I've had recently,That I realized we did not discuss. And some tests for COPD that was just done yesterday and the results are not yet known. And she didnt ask my primary care doctors name or information. Only my Cardiac doctors, which btw Cardiac problems is why I am filing for SSDI.
 I guess my question is.. Is there a way to add more information to the submitted 3368 done on the phone.?
 Or should I not concern myself with it and wait for a determination
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: jsm on December 06, 2018, 05:11:09 pm
Are all of these sources from the same group or medical organization so the storage of these medical records is maintained in the same place, even if you see different doctors at different locales?

When SSA makes a request, they request all records from whatever source you provided. Unless the source is new and not previously mentioned, whatever you did not include on your 3368 should be submitted when the records are requested.

Since your claim has now been submitted to the local office, it will be referred to the DDS in a few days. I would wait at least a week, maybe 10 days. Then your case should have been transferred and assigned to an analyst. Then you can contact that person and ask if they want copies of the paper records you have and then mention the missing medical info.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 14, 2018, 08:00:39 am
In the mail I received form 3369bk. I am trying to find it on the SSA site so I can fill it out an submit it online.

Would someone please tell me how/where to find it?

 I am looking at my home page after signing in but I dont see any available forms.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 14, 2018, 08:05:47 am
 I found it. If anyone is curious it is on the SSA home page and not on the my account page.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: Just Me on December 14, 2018, 04:02:31 pm
Even when claimants submit copies of their medical records. DDS  requests copies from the providers. It is a matter of credibility.

It is common for most claimants to be denied at application. Adjudicators do not have the experience and leeway Administrative Law,Judges do.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: jsm on December 15, 2018, 04:04:50 pm
It may not be possible to submit an electronic SSA 3369. I am not sure of this, but am confident that if that option was available to you, SSA would have included the how to in your packet with the paper form. And you can direct your question to the phone number of the person who sent the form.

You probably want to spend a little bit of time completing it, a rough draft and some changes, and a final copy, but don't agonize over the details, like exact job title and exact dates worked somewhere. You are wanting DDS to know the physical and mental demands of your Prior Relevant Work. So think about it from that standpoint. You want DDS to be able to tie the physical and mental demands of what you used to do before you became disabled with what you can and cannot do, based on the medical records.

You should be able to complete it over several days, maybe an hour or so at a time. Start thinking about your prior jobs and the physical and mental demands, in terms of how often during the work day. Put down your initial thoughts and do something else for a day or so. Then go back and refine.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 15, 2018, 04:58:56 pm
 I think your right that I can not submit it electronically.
But I can fill it out on the computer and print it, thats a good thing as my handwriting is horrible.
 Thank you all for your input!
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: Just Me on December 15, 2018, 05:32:21 pm
Details matter.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: vrad58 on December 16, 2018, 11:03:52 am
My biggest mistake was on the function form. I put more information on how I felt on a good day, then on my worst day, big mistake, HUGE! The first judge was a posterior body part and base his decision solely on that.

I have chronic migraines and on a good day I can do most anything but when I have a down-and-out migraine I can't even get out of bed and I am throwing up for days. He ignored the second part.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: pattysofty on December 16, 2018, 11:23:25 am
My biggest mistake was on the function form. I put more information on how I felt on a good day, then on my worst day, big mistake, HUGE! The first judge was a posterior body part and base his decision solely on that.

I have chronic migraines and on a good day I can do most anything but when I have a down-and-out migraine I can't even get out of bed and I am throwing up for days. He ignored the second part.


That's terrible! You were just telling the truth!
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 18, 2018, 11:09:25 am
 I am speaking with a lawyer tomorrow who has said I don't have to have been denied for her to take my case.
 If anyone has suggestions for me about the lawyer or anything else I would love to hear them.
 
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: jsm on December 18, 2018, 12:55:41 pm
How much control do you want over your case? How much communication do you expect between you and the rep? What actions do you expect them to perform for you? What is the rep willing to do for your case before it goes to an ALJ and is that worth 25% of your retroactive benefits. At this point, since you have completed and submitted your claim, you have copies of all medical records to submit, you have answered all the questions. If you sign a fee agreement with an attorney now and you are approved on the initial application, the attorney will get 25% of your retroactive benefits for doing next to no work. How would you feel about that?

So ask the rep what would they do for you and when will they do it? How much input will they have in the initial claims process? The rep cannot provide more accurate answers to DDS than you will since the rep (or some non-lawyer staff member) will need to get answers from you to give to DDS.

Reps really make little difference at the initial level and can't really add much to what you have already done. But perhaps you are willing to pay 25% of retroactive benefits for some perceived peace of mind.

If you go to a hearing, you absolutely should get a rep. IMO.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: Just Me on December 18, 2018, 01:09:55 pm
Some attorney will take cases before the claimant is denied. But there is nothing an attorney can do that the claimant cannot do before the hearing level. That is the reason most don't accept cases before then.

If you are approved before the hearing level. The attorney will be entitled to the same 25% of your back pay. They would be entitled to that same amount if your case went to the hearing level. You can discuss with the attorney them accepting less if you are approved at the lower level. But do not ve surprised if they say no.

Ask about thing that are important to you. For example, do you want to meet with your attorney in their office a few weeks before your hearing ? Or are you comfortable with not knowing anything about what to expect until a few minutes before the hearing ? As the attorney his preferred method of communication with clients. If you have questions how long does it take to receive a reply ir return phone call. If you have,questions do you deal with the attorney or someone in their office ? If you are denied at a hearing and by the appeals council. If you think you might want to go to the federal level. Ask the attorney if they go to federal court. Not all attorneys can practice at the federal level.

Be sure and carefully read the Fee Agreement Before You Sign It. Ask for a copy to take home with you.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on December 24, 2018, 11:25:23 am
Merry Christmas and A great New Year wishes to all!
 Thanks everyone for your advise! I did go against some of the advise given about hiring a Lawyer at this point in my case and hired one.
 It has given me some peice  of mind to have another knowledgeable representative helping me through this journey.
 Goodluck everyone in all things !
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: NurseTina on December 27, 2018, 03:49:07 pm
I called a couple disability lawyers and they all said to wait on the decision and if I was denied to contact them.  I understand where you're coming from though. I don't know if it would make the process faster or not. Good Luck! :Main05:
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: Just Me on December 27, 2018, 06:00:26 pm
There is nothing an attorney can do at the initial stage. That the claimant cannot do on their own. Having an attorney does not speed up the process. At the hearing level when OHO is ready to schedule a hearing. It can often take longer to get a hearing date due to an attorneys schedule. But it is always best to have an attorney at the hearing. Claimants do not know how to properly argue their case in front of a ALJ.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: SaveTheAtty on December 27, 2018, 07:08:48 pm
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Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on February 01, 2019, 07:10:41 pm
I received a denial letter today for SSI And SSDI, so I now move to the appeal stage I guess. I need to contact my Lawyer and see what they have to say. My understanding is the appeal process can take a very long time.
 One of my greatest concerns now is that, the insurance I had will stop very very soon.
 Not sure how I will pay for prescriptions and Doctors visits now.
 Fyi I live in Florida if anyone has advise.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: SFVLance on February 01, 2019, 07:53:44 pm
Does Florida have Medicaid, or a similar program?
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: Just Me on February 01, 2019, 11:06:55 pm
Florida did not expand Medicaid. They have Federally Qualified Health Centers along with other free and sliding scale clinics.

The OP can go to www.healthcare.gov if they lose their health insurance. They may or may not be eligible for subsidies to help with the cost of a ACA plan.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on February 02, 2019, 06:21:42 pm
I did find a sliding scale type clinic near me.
 As for prescriptions maybe one of the discount cards I've seen.
 I remember seeing some suggestions in another thread about them but can't find it now. Anyone have advise on prescriptions?
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: ZetasNana on February 02, 2019, 06:25:29 pm
Aacaptain, at your first appointment, they should tell you what they cover.  Mine covered free prescriptions also.  Or you can call and ask.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: ZetasNana on February 02, 2019, 06:28:21 pm
P.S.  Goodrx.com may be useful to you if you need prescriptions refilled in the meantime, before your first appointment.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: acaptainn on February 03, 2019, 05:50:26 pm
Thanks for the advise! I will check in to both options.
Title: Re: New to the forum and to Filing my initial claim.
Post by: ZetasNana on February 04, 2019, 09:08:12 am
You're welcome.  :)